What is the best way to stop illegal immigration to the US?

Updated on : January 20, 2022 by Cain Whitfield



What is the best way to stop illegal immigration to the US?

Consider First Mexican Illegal Immigration -

  1. Recognize that we, the United States, are at war with Mexico
  2. The war is actually a by-product of Mexican infighting.
  3. The wealthy landowning aristocracy of Mexico wishes to retain its status as such
  4. Literally the poorest class in Mexico are encouraged to seek their fortune in the United States, where
  5. Liberals tolerate this invasion as long as
  6. The exit from poverty to the United States protects the landowning aristocracy from the obvious revolution that has been long overdue in a stratified and completely oppressive society.
  7. The president and other politicians of Mexico, of course.
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Consider First Mexican Illegal Immigration -

  1. Recognize that we, the United States, are at war with Mexico
  2. The war is actually a by-product of Mexican infighting.
  3. The wealthy landowning aristocracy of Mexico wishes to retain its status as such
  4. Literally the poorest class in Mexico are encouraged to seek their fortune in the United States, where
  5. Liberals tolerate this invasion as long as
  6. The exit from poverty to the United States protects the landowning aristocracy from the obvious revolution that has been long overdue in a stratified and completely oppressive society.
  7. The president and other politicians in Mexico, of course, support these migrations, since they foolishly believe that "if enough Mexicans migrate ... they will vote, etc. and we will recover" our "land."
  8. Therefore, immigration prevention can be organized in two ways:
    1. Support Mexico economically "enough" for illegal applicants to have jobs, and so on. - this was attempted, it was called NAFTA, and the attempt was thwarted by the same landed aristocracy that supported migration in the first place
    2. Put an end to prejudice in Mexico: 99% of the landed aristocracy have close family ties to Spain; they are light-skinned; and therefore they are not "mestizos". The mestizo people are HATED by the landowning classes.
  9. And so it goes on.

Prosecuting the war against Mexico would be one more solution.

More radical solutions, such as simply shooting every person who tries to cross, would NOT be fruitful: most Mexicans would never find out about these (hypothetical) atrocities, and I assure you that the migrants would keep coming.

The robber barons of Mexico would NOT notice, worry or bother in any other way; they see the migrant population as nothing more than vermin.

That they themselves are among the most accomplished public relations experts, convincing most of the world that the United States is an “empire of evil,” dedicated to its own preservation at the expense of Mexico, is truly a marvel. Thank you, Mr. Soros.

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As others say, there is no way to stop illegal immigration completely. Other nations (eg Singapore, where illegals are subject to arrest, flogging, and deportation in that order) have far more draconian rules than the United States, and cannot yet "stop" them.

So let's put aside the idea that it can be stopped and answer the real, implicit question of how to narrow it down to a small, manageable problem.

IMHO, the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants to the US come to the US not to commit crime, drug smuggling, or government sponges. Of course there are some who do these th

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As others say, there is no way to stop illegal immigration completely. Other nations (eg Singapore, where illegals are subject to arrest, flogging, and deportation in that order) have far more draconian rules than the United States, and cannot yet "stop" them.

So let's put aside the idea that it can be stopped and answer the real, implicit question of how to narrow it down to a small, manageable problem.

IMHO, the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants to the US come to the US not to commit crime, drug smuggling, or government sponges. Of course, there are some who do these things (some, all), but I suspect that it is a fairly small minority.

The reason why most of the illegals come falls into two categories:

  1. They come to join relatives already living in the U.S. (Some legally, some illegally)
  2. They come looking for a job that pays them better than what they get at home, or has better working conditions, or both.

For the first point, I suppose the problem could be eliminated simply by facilitating family reunification. If one is a legal citizen, make it easy for the immediate family (children, parents, unmarried siblings) to join them. Of course, there are problems with this, such as the often-cited "chain" migration, but if we allow family members to meet with the explicit requirement that they be 100% sponsored (no "free" health benefits, for example), then perhaps it would encourage people to become citizens rather than foreigners, strengthen ties with our nation, and reduce the problem.

For the second, I suggest that setting VERY HIGH fines, if not criminal penalties, on people who knowingly hire workers without proper papers would quickly reduce the demand for illegal workers. We already have, for example, systems to check the status of job seekers; simply enforcing these rules strictly would deter most illegal immigration.

But if we are honest, Americans in many cases really want illegal workers in the economy; they believe this reduces costs for them. Certainly, the big companies that give money to the Republican Party have no interest in stopping the flow of cheap, docile workers.

So the problem is never solved.

I think the concept that illegal aliens are taking jobs is not well thought out. Doctors, lawyers and engineers from other countries will not come here to become illegal aliens when they have better status and pay in their homeland. Those who come here end up as cooks, busboys, or some other form of housework. They are the ones who make guacamole, mow the lawn, clean the houses, and pick fruit.

I think the most serious problem is what to do with the 12 million that are already here. I think that deporting them is a very expensive and inhumane process. We will have to find them, stop them, feed them and provide them

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I think the concept that illegal aliens are taking jobs is not well thought out. Doctors, lawyers and engineers from other countries will not come here to become illegal aliens when they have better status and pay in their homeland. Those who come here end up as cooks, busboys, or some other form of housework. They are the ones who make guacamole, mow the lawn, clean the houses, and pick fruit.

I think the most serious problem is what to do with the 12 million that are already here. I think that deporting them is a very expensive and inhumane process. We will have to find them, detain them, feed them and provide them with medical care, provide them with legal representation, and if they lose their case, we will have to transport them. Mexico would be easy but many of them are from China, the Philippines, El Salvador or places in Africa. We cannot arrest them and let them go or we would have to search for them again. We would need concentration camps to house twelve million people. This would make us look like the Nazis. How many policemen will we assign the task of finding them? Will a million policemen be enough? Do we have that many? Who will hunt down violent criminals? Do we stop chasing bank robbers,

So we build a wall, we need to examine the success of the walls. The Great Wall of China, the Maginot Line, the Siegfried Line and the Berlin Wall. All failures. Not to mention the fact that most of the illegal aliens arrived here by plane.

My point is that the problem is what to do with those who are already here. Deportation is expensive and inhumane. Giving them citizenship is like rewarding them. I think that the solutions being discussed now are not practical. We need to be more imaginative and figure this out.

Maybe some kind of special status where they can stay and work and not be deported unless they commit violent crimes. But they do not have access to citizenship. I don't know the answer, but as a country we have faced bigger problems before. We can fix this.

  1. Require companies to use e-verify, a program that confirms social security numbers.
    Interesting fact: Florida, which has a large population of undocumented immigrants, refuses to institute electronic verification. (All that would be needed is an executive order from the governor.) This is a decision of two Republican governors for 16 years.
    Republican leaders are not really opposed to immigration. The truth is that they love it. Good for business! They only pretend to be against it to keep their base happy.
  2. Pay living wages so businesses don't desperately need immigrants to do nasty farm jobs
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  1. Require companies to use e-verify, a program that confirms social security numbers.
    Interesting fact: Florida, which has a large population of undocumented immigrants, refuses to institute electronic verification. (All that would be needed is an executive order from the governor.) This is a decision of two Republican governors for 16 years.
    Republican leaders are not really opposed to immigration. The truth is that they love it. Good for business! They only pretend to be against it to keep their base happy.
  2. Pay living wages so businesses don't desperately need immigrants to do unsavory farm jobs. Americans could do some of those jobs and immigrants would return home. No job, no immigrants.
  3. Recognize that because the US birth rate is falling, there are simply not enough US citizens to sustain the US economy -
    Congress already knows this. Twice, with Republican support, Congress has drafted immigration reform bills with provisions to strengthen the border and attract the immigrant workers our country needs.
    And twice, even though both bills would have passed easily, Republican leaders refused to put them to a vote. His base doesn't like immigration.
    Remember when President Bush tried to create a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants? Maybe he knew something. (And remember when President Reagan granted citizenship to undocumented immigrants?)
  4. Be real about the economy. We are almost at full employment now and yet there are still thousands upon thousands of undocumented workers. What does that tell you?
    Here's a comparison: Norway, a country with a prosperous economy that pays workers well, still has a lot of migrant workers to import.
  5. Stop the hype and rhetoric, and apply a generous amount of common sense and economic knowledge.

1. Negotiate a fair CAFTA and NAFTA agreement. Currently, there is no clear benefit for producers in Central America and Mexico. They cannot compete with subsidized American agricultural products. This unfair trade agreement leads to migration. "If you can't beat them, join them."
2. Do not punish undocumented migrant workers employed by US corporations. American corporations turn a blind eye to the status of their employees through their lax HR practices because they are interested in obtaining ...

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One important way would be to help improve the stability of the countries of South and Central America. To date, I think it would be beneficial to suggest that the United States' record in promoting stability south of its border was even uneven.

One thing in particular would be that if the United States took any serious action to stop the massive demand for narcotics, all that money flowing into the hands of organized criminal networks massively undermines the stability and quality of life in the countries where the drugs are produced. and those where drugs travel. The Americas War on Drugs has been a total disaster fo

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One important way would be to help improve the stability of the countries of South and Central America. To date, I think it would be beneficial to suggest that the United States' record in promoting stability south of its border was even uneven.

One thing in particular would be that if the United States took any serious action to stop the massive demand for narcotics, all that money flowing into the hands of organized criminal networks massively undermines the stability and quality of life in the countries where the drugs are produced. and those where drugs travel. The Americas War on Drugs has been a total disaster for both the US and the rest of the Americas, if they switched to a more sensible model of addiction management and thus reduced demand, it would help enormously.

It would also help if the United States used its first-class intelligence and civil service to promote the establishment of first-class democratic institutions in other American countries. (And it wouldn't hurt if he made sure his own examples remain shining. The way the Trump administration treated FBI Director Comey should be seen as a particularly poor example, whether he supports Trump or not. To back any group in a given country that was most likely to provide the best trade terms to American businesses, little thought was given to whether the same people would run over their countries and cause waves of emigrants to go to the U.S. or yes day you turn the United States on for other reasons.

To be clear, I am far from un-American, the US gets it right most of the time (almost), but credit where it is due must be balanced with blame where it is due as well and accepting responsibility for consequences of their actions. even if you mean well.

Illegal immigration wouldn't be a problem if our "politicians" hadn't screwed us and the rule of law for too long. Actually 90% + of all this illegal alien invasion problem is quite easy to solve.

First - We need a NATIONAL E-Verify law that makes it mandatory for ALL people applying for ANY job or ANY benefit to be approved through this great program run by the SSA.

2nd - There should also be strict and severe penalties (including at least jail time and loss of business license) for those dishonest people who provide a job or benefit to an illegal alien without using E-Verify

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Illegal immigration wouldn't be a problem if our "politicians" hadn't screwed us and the rule of law for too long. Actually 90% + of all this illegal alien invasion problem is quite easy to solve.

First - We need a NATIONAL E-Verify law that makes it mandatory for ALL people applying for ANY job or ANY benefit to be approved through this great program run by the SSA.

2nd - There must also be strict and severe penalties (including at least one jail time and loss of business license) for those dishonest people who provide a job or benefit to an illegal alien without using E-Verify.

With no jobs and no "gifts" from the government, the vast majority of illegal aliens will simply pack up and self-deport. This is what was happening in Arizona, when they began to abide by federal laws, before the Justice Department trampled on their effort.

Just think of the MILLIONS of jobs that will open when all illegal aliens leave the country.

3rd - The next focus should be on those criminals who lie to the federal government about not being able to find 'qualified' IT personnel and apply for H-1B visas for foreign workers who hire about half the current salary of people who ALREADY they are working - and that they are FORCED to train their replacements. Disney, Siemens, the California State Department of Vehicles are some of the rogue employers. Whoever submitted those FALSE H-1B visa applications should be prosecuted and incarcerated. Now, there may be a rare time when a company can't really find a qualified US citizen or legal immigrant to fill a job. In ALL those rare cases,

Legal immigration. It may sound silly, but it is.

As Kelly has so cleverly pointed out, a massive wall would ultimately only stop the most reckless attempts. It would be an incredible expense and a formidable obstacle. But very quickly it would become ineffective, as the cunning of the human mind would elude it. And those cunning enough to defeat him would lead hundreds of others, if not thousands, after them to the United States.

But the reality is that most of the people who immigrate illegally are people documented in their respective countries. They do not immigrate legally because or

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Legal immigration. It may sound silly, but it is.

As Kelly has so cleverly pointed out, a massive wall would ultimately only stop the most reckless attempts. It would be an incredible expense and a formidable obstacle. But very quickly it would become ineffective, as the cunning of the human mind would elude it. And those cunning enough to defeat him would lead hundreds of others, if not thousands, after them to the United States.

But the reality is that most of the people who immigrate illegally are people documented in their respective countries. They do not immigrate legally due to incredibly low thresholds for immigration, and the sheer bureaucratic wait is almost designed to turn away those who seek to immigrate legally. Therefore, many chose to immigrate illegally.

As long as the United States is an economically strong and world-class country, it will be coveted by the less fortunate, the demand for immigration will be high. Illegal immigration is dangerous, both for those who practice it and for those who live with them. But it could be drastically reduced if there were more open, clear and simple paths to legal immigration. Because nothing will stop immigrants from arriving; But maybe we can change the way we treat them.

President Trump has made it very clear that he wants to curb illegal immigration, and this is a noble effort that I understand. We all know that you want to build a border wall to achieve this goal. However, this will not cure the root causes of illegal immigration and, combined with its lackluster effectiveness, it will likely be a bad investment. Trump has also recently halved quotas that limit the number of legal immigrants. This is likely to cause an increase in illegal immigration; simply telling people that they are not allowed in will not stop them and if they cannot do it legally, they will do so less than legally. To deliver on his promises, Trump should reform immigration policies that reject many law-abiding people who are willing to legally immigrate, forcing them to resort to illegal entry methods. If legal immigration is easy, then the pressure to immigrate illegally will be reduced. The main driver behind illegal immigration is how easy it is, compared to the legal process. If we reform that process, it will be easier and all the coyotes and human traffickers will be out of work. At the same time, immigrants will flood the cities and take over the menial jobs (Trump often claims that these jobs should be for Americans, but in reality most Americans are unwilling to do these jobs, while immigrants Yes). Since they are not undocumented, they will be required to have their income taxed and the money will go back to the government. The immigrant population will buy their food here, you will go to school here, work and live here, all of which will stimulate the economy and put money in the pockets of Americans. then the pressure to immigrate illegally will be reduced. The main driver behind illegal immigration is how easy it is, compared to the legal process. If we reform that process, it will be easier and all the coyotes and human traffickers will be out of work. At the same time, immigrants will flood the cities and take over the menial jobs (Trump often claims that these jobs should be for Americans, but in reality most Americans are unwilling to do these jobs, while immigrants Yes). Since they are not undocumented, they will be required to have their income taxed and the money will go back to the government. The immigrant population will buy their food here, go to school here, work and live here, all of which will stimulate the economy and put money in the pockets of Americans. then the pressure to immigrate illegally will be reduced. The main driver behind illegal immigration is how easy it is, compared to the legal process. If we reform that process, it will be easier and all the coyotes and human traffickers will be out of work. At the same time, immigrants will flood the cities and take over the menial jobs (Trump often claims that these jobs should be for Americans, but in reality most Americans are unwilling to do these jobs, while immigrants Yes). Since they are not undocumented, they will be required to have their income taxed and the money will go back to the government. The immigrant population will buy their food here, go to school here, work and live here, all of which will stimulate the economy and put money in the pockets of Americans.

As the old adage goes, "More population, more of everything."

Take away all American rights and privileges from illegals Including children (no, children are not to blame, but American children are being excluded from their right or help from the government so that illegal children can be helped) this includes minimum wage (pay 50 cents a day.) any kind of government and state aid of any kind. Illegal employer fine of two hundred thousand per illegal employee. Stop US citizenship for anyone born in the United States, but not an American parent. (After all, if a baby is born in a vet's office that does not turn him into an animal or is a dog born into a human h

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Take away all American rights and privileges from illegals Including children (no, children are not to blame, but American children are being excluded from their right or help from the government so that illegal children can be helped) this includes minimum wage (pay 50 cents a day.) any kind of government and state aid of any kind. Illegal employer fine of two hundred thousand per illegal employee. Stop US citizenship for anyone born in the United States, but not an American parent. (After all, if a baby is born in a vet's office that doesn't turn him into an animal or if a dog born in a human hospital is a human.) Stop rewarding illegal acts with privileges. No voting rights for any person not born in the United States of American parents. Make a deal with Mexico to hold any asylum seeker in detention facilities until their case is decided. .. I am a Hispanic American and I wish that white and black people and Latin Americans who do not speak Spanish could understand Spanish. (Don't trust the news in Spanish, they misrepresent the news) So you can understand what this movement is really about. The plans recover what they believe was stolen from them. Come here and breed other races until they can take over America. Yes, we will all meet on reservations while they enjoy and send to hell which all true Americans work hard for. Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Come here and breed other races until they can take over America. Yes, we will all meet on reservations while they enjoy and send to hell which all true Americans work hard for. Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Come here and breed other races until they can take over America. Yes, we will all meet on reservations while they enjoy and send to hell which all true Americans work hard for. Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Come here and breed other races until they can take over America. Yes, we will all meet on reservations while they enjoy and send to hell which all true Americans work hard for. Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!! Come here and breed other races until they can take over America. Yes, we will all meet on reservations while they enjoy and send to hell which all true Americans work hard for. Look to the past to see the future. Socialism has never worked !!!

Look, more people want to move to the US than we offer. This is obvious right?

Most arguments about "stopping illegal immigration" miss this main point.

It's easy enough to say, “I don't have a problem with immigrants, just illegal immigrants. Follow the rules and we will all be fine. "

It's a thorny issue, but that position generally seems to be an indirect argument about class, race, culture, etc.

Here's what I mean: the most "obvious" solution to "stopping illegal immigration" is rarely considered: that increasing the number of people we allow in each year would remove most of the incentives to take the

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Look, more people want to move to the US than we offer. This is obvious right?

Most arguments about "stopping illegal immigration" miss this main point.

It's easy enough to say, “I don't have a problem with immigrants, just illegal immigrants. Follow the rules and we will all be fine. "

It's a thorny issue, but that position generally seems to be an indirect argument about class, race, culture, etc.

Here's what I mean: the most "obvious" solution to "stopping illegal immigration" is rarely considered: that increasing the number of people we allow in each year would remove most of the incentives to take the illegal route.

But when I asked my more conservative friends if they would agree to allow 10 times more legal immigrants each year, so that almost everyone would be legal and hardly anyone would try to come here illegally, they all said, "Of course not" (for reasons that They range from not wanting too rapid population growth, to being concerned about immigrants “taking” American jobs, to not wanting outsiders to change American culture by immigrating in large numbers).

But the point is, it's never really about them being "illegal" ... it's about not wanting most of the people who want to come here to come here, by legal means or otherwise.

A country has the right to choose who it wants to allow entry. Japan, for example, makes immigration of foreigners very difficult and no one shouts for its injustice. Similarly, the US should be allowed to have a debate about who it wants here. But to suggest that the debate is primarily about the "rule of law" really misses the point and takes us even further away from having a real debate about the real issues.

Decriminalize work, do not legalize illegal immigration or illegal immigrants.

Most of the solutions proposed here (or elsewhere with a similar question) are not sincere. They are ridiculous, like shoot to kill at the border crossing, or impractical, like penalizing employers with fines or jail time.

The people who are giving such answers know very well that such solutions are not acceptable (morally, legally, practically or electorally). These responses are a means of promoting what they really want, a total amnesty and a citizenship lottery. The reason for the responses is not about providing genuine solutions.

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Decriminalize work, do not legalize illegal immigration or illegal immigrants.

Most of the solutions proposed here (or elsewhere with a similar question) are not sincere. They are ridiculous, like shoot to kill at the border crossing, or impractical, like penalizing employers with fines or jail time.

The people who are giving such answers know very well that such solutions are not acceptable (morally, legally, practically or electorally). These responses are a means of promoting what they really want, a total amnesty and a citizenship lottery. The motive behind the answers is not about providing a genuine solution.

Like drugs or prostitution, criminalizing both employer and employees will not make illegal immigration disappear. Such a policy simply forces these people to go deeper underground. If illegal immigrants cannot make a living flipping hamburgers or picking fruit, then a large portion of them have to turn to crime. The solution is not only ineffective, it is terrible and dangerous.

Sex, drug use or work should not be criminalized. However, this should not mean that illegal immigrants who are prostitutes or drug dealers should be able to apply for their businesses anywhere and then receive citizenship in order to enjoy retirement with Medicare and Social Security.

Licensed brothels or state licensed self-injection rooms are there to regulate and contain the effect of prostitution and drugs. Similarly, the US government must issue a temporary work visa (maximum 2 years, but renewal is possible) for the area where there is a genuine shortage of manual labor, such as agriculture or domestic work ( cleaning / gardening).

And it should be made explicit that people who are only capable of low-productivity work are not good enough for citizenship, no matter how long they keep working and renewing the visa. They can save their income and buy a home or start their own home business, but this is not a path to permanent residence and citizenship.

Permanent residence and eventual citizenship should be reserved for high income earners (a typical one is doctor, engineers, scientists, and businessmen / entrepreneurs). Also, well-motivated temporary work visa holders could attend school at night, earn a qualification (or get a scholarship to the University), and then apply for a higher category of work visa. The point is that if it is more productive and beneficial to the host country, it will lead to a better visa category, including the path to citizenship.

If there is a legal way for poor foreigners to work in the US, then only the people who are still coming illegally are real criminals who thought it is more profitable to commit crimes in the US than in their home countries. They must be rigorously persecuted and deported.

Also, once there is a legal way to employ cheap labor, it is likely that anyone who is employing someone illegally is operating a criminal business, so it should be shut down.

When there is a legal way to work in a limited and regulated area, then unauthorized work should be penalized and criminalized.

Many countries in Asia issue work visas for manual jobs and these countries are not inundated with illegal residence. None of these countries speak of amnesty or the path to citizenship.

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