How will people buy the products that robots make if there is little or no work?

Updated on : January 21, 2022 by Zak Adams



How will people buy the products that robots make if there is little or no work?

Where, in fact?

  • The disembodied AIs may need humans to act as sensors and effectors, that is, "meat robots."
  • Some people will prefer human waiters and servants to robots, even when robots can do the job better. It will become a status symbol to have human servants.
  • Prostitution. Do I need to say more?
  • Some humans can make a marginal living by searching mounds of scrap for parts that can be improvised into a robot, which can then be put into operation. Aniken Skywalker started this way, and look how it ended.
  • Some human beings earn a marginal living from hunting, fishing, and subsistence farming. That is to say,
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Where, in fact?

  • The disembodied AIs may need humans to act as sensors and effectors, that is, "meat robots."
  • Some people will prefer human waiters and servants to robots, even when robots can do the job better. It will become a status symbol to have human servants.
  • Prostitution. Do I need to say more?
  • Some humans can make a marginal living by searching mounds of scrap for parts that can be improvised into a robot, which can then be put into operation. Aniken Skywalker started this way, and look how it ended.
  • Some human beings earn a marginal living from hunting, fishing, and subsistence farming. That is, if we have not cleaned the planet of other life forms before the robots do it with us.
  • Human governments will likely reject robotic candidates, so there will still be some twists and turns to be made. But with most of the economy in the hands of robots, being a congressman will be far less lucrative than it is today. Awww. Too.

There are some areas, such as arts and crafts, where automation may not meet needs, or the artisan may produce goods in excess of automated production. Some simple examples are custom knife makers, food, art. Many of these are in the domain of rural producers, I note.

In some urban areas, people will turn to traditional forms of honorable employment such as robbery, drug theft, prostitution, and gambling on basketball games and auto races.

When automation reduces the cost of production to where the cost of materials, including the energy required, is a more important factor than the laboratory.

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There are some areas, such as arts and crafts, where automation may not meet needs, or the artisan may produce goods in excess of automated production. Some simple examples are custom knife makers, food, art. Many of these are in the domain of rural producers, I note.

In some urban areas, people will turn to traditional forms of honorable employment such as robbery, drug theft, prostitution, and gambling on basketball games and auto races.

When automation lowers the cost of production to where the cost of materials, including the energy required, is a more important factor than labor or marketing, national control of global raw materials will become even more important.

Then another mind more disturbed by this possibility. I have already answered this question at least twice.

If there are no jobs, there are still products and services, then those products and services are produced at no cost and can be obtained simply by asking for them. It doesn't take any work to have your own private jet with the fuel to fly anywhere while enjoying the best china, food and whiskey on the go. If robots do everything, there is no need to buy anything, there is no need for a job.

If we had robots of such sophistication that nobody had to work, I imagine that we would be in a state close to super abundance. In that scenario, everyone can have whatever they want. Just take it.

Look at how these topics are dealt with in science fiction, for example. Star Trek. You just have to make the ship's computer play whatever you want.

However, suppose we look to the nearest future. Yes, robotics will threaten jobs, as it has in the past. Those whose jobs are threatened will need to upgrade their skills and land jobs that robots cannot. It will probably be a painful process for many people. Schumpeterian Creat

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If we had robots of such sophistication that nobody had to work, I imagine that we would be in a state close to super abundance. In that scenario, everyone can have whatever they want. Just take it.

Look at how these topics are dealt with in science fiction, for example. Star Trek. You just have to make the ship's computer play whatever you want.

However, suppose we look to the nearest future. Yes, robotics will threaten jobs, as it has in the past. Those whose jobs are threatened will need to upgrade their skills and land jobs that robots cannot. It will probably be a painful process for many people. Schumpeterian creative destruction.

Robots are also products. So where would the money come from to buy them?

In other words, if there is money to buy robots, there is also money to buy other things.

And no, it cannot be said that only the factory owners have money and no one else has it. The money that the owners have only has value because it can buy other things in the economy, for example, food, cars, doctors, plumbers and electricians, etc. The owners would not bother to buy robots to increase their profits if there were no other products that the owners could buy with those profits.

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People who make products will always have a target market, and it can be reasonably assumed that the identified market will contain a customer base with sufficient income to purchase those robot-made products.

In "little or no work", the human species, with its cumulative knowledge readily available to anyone living in first world countries, there will always be a way to acquire that knowledge to develop marketable skills, or create your own opportunities through endeavors. businesses from starting a tech giant to starting a local neighborhood cleaning service.

Very cheap.

The harder question is how people with almost no income will buy products that are made with / by humans and cost much more than those made by robots.

Vonnegut's Player Piano offers a daunting idea. But I don't have a better one. Art (broadly defined, including entertainment) is a possibility.

The unemployed will be abused by their own governments; Just look at the US Army, many unemployed (even those who have received education, with a military scholarship) are drafted into ridiculous wars.

There has to be an uprising against democracy (clearly not working) and find a new model between socialism, feudalism, communism or dictatorship.

If robots carried all of humanity's jobs to the point where no one is working, then the governments of the world would probably institute a UBI (Universal Basic Income) and allow people to ration them however they wanted. Or maybe they would get rid of the concept of money entirely, like a communist utopia.

We have a good idea of ​​what will happen when we automate 90% of the jobs.

How?

Since the last time it happened!

In the period shortly after the American Revolution, 90% of our workforce worked in agriculture. Today that number is around 2%.

The last time I checked the unemployment rate, it was well below 88%. I think the standard of living of our working class has also improved a bit since then.

A worker today produces more food than 50 two hundred years ago. That allowed the other 49+ to devote their time and energy to new endeavors while still being able to eat. Those other 49 have to do things like produce s

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We have a good idea of ​​what will happen when we automate 90% of the jobs.

How?

Since the last time it happened!

In the period shortly after the American Revolution, 90% of our workforce worked in agriculture. Today that number is around 2%.

The last time I checked the unemployment rate, it was well below 88%. I think the standard of living of our working class has also improved a bit since then.

A worker today produces more food than 50 two hundred years ago. That allowed the other 49+ to devote their time and energy to new endeavors while still being able to eat. The other 49 had to do things like make steel for skyscrapers and cars, invent the computer, and open restaurants.

As automation (with tools, fertilizers and tractors as the relevant machines / innovations of the day) reduced the need for farm workers, that proportion of the workforce was freed up to switch to new professions, generated by technology or entrepreneurship. , that the people of the older generation could not even have imagined.

Like today, you can't imagine what new types of professions tomorrow's generations will move into when your time and energy are released.

We automate agriculture and put out cars and skyscrapers. What do you think we will get when we automate the construction of cars and skyscrapers? Even if you can't imagine it, others can.

And some will go ahead and take us there.

Isn't this graph:

Does it look a lot like this?

Do you see how manufacturing output (read: how much can we consume) has also increased all this time?

And what has been happening with employment all this time (minus the 2008 fiasco)?

Consumers who cannot pay for goods (collectively) assume that prices are fixed or non-existent, that it is not the world we live in. We automate when it is cheaper than labor, lowering prices and expanding the market for these goods while increasing real income. Cheaper prices “free up” income to spend on new goods / services generated by segments of the workforce that are no longer needed in now automated jobs.

If you really can't imagine that there will be more innovation to generate enough new economic activity to create jobs, remember that they wanted to get rid of the patent office around 1900 because "everything that can be invented has it."

Quote tracking: everything that can be invented has been invented

Agricultural employment

To those of you who think it'll be heaven in heaven with a big butt with crack cocaine, calm down. What I know for sure is that the vile nature of humans cannot be controlled. Humans manage themselves based on ideology. On philosophy. Any human being who disagrees with how the world is going will eventually do something to change the course. Humans are violent, tribalistic, patriotic, myopic, and when the difficult spot becomes too narrow for comfort against the metaphorical rock, it will do something to shake the robot off.

Oh let me guess this utopian world no one uses guns, they don't even know how

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To those of you who think it'll be heaven in heaven with a big butt with crack cocaine, calm down. What I know for sure is that the vile nature of humans cannot be controlled. Humans manage themselves based on ideology. On philosophy. Any human being who disagrees with how the world is going will eventually do something to change the course. Humans are violent, tribalistic, patriotic, myopic, and when the difficult spot becomes too narrow for comfort against the metaphorical rock, it will do something to shake the robot off.

Oh let me guess in this utopian world no one uses weapons, they don't even know how to use basic tools. Coding is a weapon. Probably the most dangerous weapon of the entire 21st century. Greater than the atomic bomb in this society. Your skills in Java, C +, Html, Perl, Python, etc. They are weapons that can destroy everything around you. Make murderous AI, detonate nuclear power plants, destroy connected systems, have police robots turn New York City into a war zone, destroy multiple entire archived libraries as physical books are no more. For every problem that technology solves, it creates even more different problems.

How about I make a copy of you and put it in my sadistic dwarf fortress torture simulator? This copy has no rights of any kind, and what if I pirated a copy of you online? Could any wicked asshole be able to play out their wildest fantasies with you without YOU knowing? Do not talk to me that the fact that it is downloaded to a computer is not the original me. The original you is still sitting in the damn chair or is being sacrificed by the damn machine. Just give me a minute to finish installing malware on you and become my personal mind-controlled zombie.

(Have this shitty meme to occupy your mind)

Now society due to current trends is going to be worse. They will sell movies in parts, and the entertainment of video games will be nothing more than online gambling with entire segments cut out for the sake of profit. Very entertaining, right? Great technology has assured you that you have nothing at all. You dont have anything. If you insult this corporation or disagree with its controversies, expect them to get everything you bought back because they own it.

Oh, let me guess that the people here will continue to view big technology as the patron saints of the damn God. Well, they will sell all your data and compromise their own systems so the government can spy on you. Do you really think the CIA has no way to break a VPN? Child, you must be so special and innocent. Now the government will have the power of the damn Nazis. They'll kill anyone who is a threat to the bastards in office, and help keep the world a stagnant place where the rich, the politicians, and the powerful rule from above while keeping everyone else suspended by a net to make sure that never rebel by telling them that they will never beat up their regime. Better to surrender and live like slaves. What happens is that they are winning. They will win

You must fear the future as much as you hope for it. We're better off patrolling the Mojave wishing for a nuclear winter.

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